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In reference to the comment below I might just recommend that to be taken a little bit more seriously you should try avoiding starting your points with xenophobic comments. But in reference to the very limiting comment about the church not being all bad I think you will find you can say that about everything. You would in fact never discuss much if you could never talkl about anything that was not all bad. I am sure you would even find people who would have rather discussed Hitler's unbelievable organisational skills.
But one must also realise that while all involved in the church are not bad the church intself as an institution has beliefs it preaches. Rome persists with outdated views on sexuality and uses its massive publicity power as well as its moral hold on society to push it on people. I find that this is no longer of benefit to our society and I have already given the examples of this. All people in the church are not bad but the institutions opinions can be discussed as all emcompassing.
In reference to the comment below I might just recommend that to be taken a little bit more seriously you should try avoiding starting your points with xenophobic comments. But in reference to the very limiting comment about the church not being all bad I think you will find you can say that about everything. You would in fact never discuss much if you could never talkl about anything that was not all bad. I am sure you would even find people who would have rather discussed Hitler's unbelievable organisational skills.
But one must also realise that while all involved in the church are not bad the church intself as an institution has beliefs it preaches. Rome persists with outdated views on sexuality and uses its massive publicity power as well as its moral hold on society to push it on people. I find that this is no longer of benefit to our society and I have already given the examples of this. All people in the church are not bad but the institutions opinions can be discussed as all emcompassing.
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As for underage sex, i think that is bullshit as everyone physically develops at different times. There are some 14 year olds who are ready to have sex and some 16 yr olds who aren't, its all relative. Regardless of what the church says people are doing "it" anyway. Society has almost completely disregarded what the church or the politicians have to say on this matter, and you know what the teenagers nowadays, in my opinion, really don't give a shit what they say either. You mentioned that its the adults that are voicing their opinions about what should or shouldnt happen. I reckon the teenagers really don't give a shit and are doing what they want to do anyway!
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perspective and experience. I mean i know i've experienced both during the infamous "act". I bet there are a lot of people who have also. IM sure prostitutes look at the act as pure bullshit and an ends to means while two people deeply in love would find it very sacred. What more is there to discuss.
As for underage sex, i think that is bullshit as everyone physically develops at different times. There are some 14 year olds who are ready to have sex and some 16 yr olds who aren't, its all relative. Regardless of what the church says people are doing "it" anyway. Society has almost completely disregarded what the church or the politicians have to say on this matter, and you know what the teenagers nowadays, in my opinion, really don't give a shit what they say either. You mentioned that its the adults that are voicing their opinions about what should or shouldnt happen. I reckon the teenagers really don't give a shit and are doing what they want to do anyway!
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xenophobic comments..... That's a good one coming from the king of xenophobic comedy. Des you come to Ireland and go around the country trying to get people to laugh at themselves when we have been doing that long before you were born. And then you think you know us and our ways. You come from and country where on your money it says " IN GOD WE TRUST" but of course all others pay cash or die.
We Irish people are proud of our past. Some of our past is bad and people have suffered, and are still suffering to this day .But what we don't need is outsiders telling us what we need. Over the last few years outsiders have been telling us what to do, and look where the country has gone, murder, drugs and so on. Sounds familiar Des. Yes the US way of life has come to our door.
We Irish people are proud of our past. Some of our past is bad and people have suffered, and are still suffering to this day .But what we don't need is outsiders telling us what we need. Over the last few years outsiders have been telling us what to do, and look where the country has gone, murder, drugs and so on. Sounds familiar Des. Yes the US way of life has come to our door.
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in fairness, in contrast to what one of the anonymous posters said, there's a big difference between being xenophobic and simply pointing out some of the ridiculous traits that each nationality has (and as an irish person, i think too many irish are defensive about and not able to laugh at themselves)
i saw you on ryan tubridy's show a few weeks back and was pretty taken aback by how opionionated you were - i think irish people are still not quite used to the idea of a comedian who's as forceful about what he believes in as you are - in many ways it's admirable but in other ways it could turn people against you
in the states, nobody would bat an eyelid, but over here it ruffles feathers and whilst the comment you made (about republicans here and in the states and how they both use violence to further their cause) was a valid one, it was almost like you were morphing into this ian paisley-like figure before my eyes belting out his beliefs to those who would listen!
no offence man, i think you're an intelligent and funny guy but those are just my thoughts on it
interesting discussion here, you definitely have a point re religion, i'd largely agree with what you've said
in fairness, in contrast to what one of the anonymous posters said, there's a big difference between being xenophobic and simply pointing out some of the ridiculous traits that each nationality has (and as an irish person, i think too many irish are defensive about and not able to laugh at themselves)
i saw you on ryan tubridy's show a few weeks back and was pretty taken aback by how opionionated you were - i think irish people are still not quite used to the idea of a comedian who's as forceful about what he believes in as you are - in many ways it's admirable but in other ways it could turn people against you
in the states, nobody would bat an eyelid, but over here it ruffles feathers and whilst the comment you made (about republicans here and in the states and how they both use violence to further their cause) was a valid one, it was almost like you were morphing into this ian paisley-like figure before my eyes belting out his beliefs to those who would listen!
no offence man, i think you're an intelligent and funny guy but those are just my thoughts on it
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